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General Investigation Information

Investigation Number:

Investigation Number: 072008

Logan County Museum and Orr Mansion
521 E Columbus Ave.
Bellefontaine, OH 43311
Telephone: 937.593.7557

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Date of Investigation: August 30, 2008
Time of Investigation: 19:00-01:15
Type of Investigation: Public Location
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Location Information

Description of Location:

Location:

The William Orr Residence:

William Orr came to Logan County from Uniopolis, Ohio, about 1891. He was a lumberman who owned lumber mills in Kenton and Huntsville. Mr. Orr called it his “dream house.” It has been said that the home cost $40,000 when it was built in the early part of the 20th century.  This was a huge sum of money, for the average factory worker may only have made $2 per day.  (What cost $40,000 in 1906 would cost $912,022.77 in 2007. Also, if you were to buy exactly the same products in 2007 and 1906, they would cost you $40,000 and $1,803.46 respectively.)

Museum:

The museum itself is in the old Latham's Nursing Home section of the building. The home could handle up to 52 patients, had a staff of twenty, and was directed by Mrs. Olga Latham. The rates in 1965 were around $8.00 per day (What cost $8 in 1965 would cost $52.07 in 2007). The Latham’s moved out in the late 1970s. The home closed in 1984, and the city’s zoning code prevented like businesses from locating there.  The museum section features a different them exhibit in each room. Some of the current exhibits are:

  • Famous Logan Countians
    • The Mills Brothers
    • Isaac Zane
    • James McPherson
    • Simon Kenton
    • Blue Jacket
    • Tarhe (The Crane)
    • Benjamin and Elizabeth Barnett Piatt
    • Phebe Sharp
    • Judge William Lawrence
    • William H. West
    • Dr. Edward Knight
    • Warren S. Cushman
    • Dr. Earl Sloan
    • General Robert Patterson Kennedy
    • Kin Hubbard
    • Larence Rausenberger
    • Clarence Wissler
    • Edward Jones
    • Norman Vincent Peale
    • Walter Alston
    • Roger Cloud
    • Allan W. Eckert
  • The Mills Brothers
  • AJ Miller
  • The Doctors Office
  • Toy Room
  • School
  • American Indian & Early Pioneer
  • General Store
  • Military Room
  • Logan County Railroad History
  • Indian Lake
  • Underground Railroad
  • Household
  • Hands on Interactive
Elevation of Location:
1,251 feet
Investigators:
Amity, Beth,Chastity,Claudia,Dale,Denny,Gail,Gene,Joan,Karen,Mariah,Penny,Tammi
History of the Home/Area:

Time Line:

  • 1891: William Orr came to Logan County from Uniopolis, Ohio
  • 1904: Mr. Orr moved his Huntsville Lumber Mill to Bellefontaine
  • 1906: the property was purchased from Mrs. Kate Berndt for $2,500
  • 1906: construction on the home began
  • 1908: construction on the home finished
  • 1922: home was owned by Mr. and Mrs. Carl E. Stuber, who bought it in December for $15,000
  • 1926: Mr. and Mrs. M. C. Harrold, who bought it in January for $25,000
  • 1930: Logan County Historical Society was chartered
  • 1935: Logan County Historical Society was closed
  • 1942: the property was transferred to Odessyl & L. H. Kelly in February
  • 1945: Logan County Historical Society was reorganized following World War II
  • 1947: Harold Kerr Post of the American Legion, which bought it in May for $25,000
  • 1960: Mr. and Mrs. Thomas Latham bought it in September for $38,500
  • 1961: Mr. and Mrs. Thomas Latham built additions on the north for the Latham Nursing Home
  • 1963: Mr. and Mrs. Thomas Latham built additions on the north for the Latham Nursing Home
  • 1965: Mr. and Mrs. Thomas Latham built additions on the north for the Latham Nursing Home
  • 1984: the Latham Nursing Home was closed due to city zoning codes
  • 1988: the house was purchased by the historical society for $50,000
  • 1989: the Orr house becomes the home of the Logan County Historical Society
  • 1995: the Society restored the tile roof on the mansion at a cost of nearly $90,000
  • 1997: the windows including the stained glass at the top of the stairs were replicated at a cost of $3,010
  • 1998: the ballroom was restored by the efforts of Professional Restoration, a Logan County business, and crews from The Logan County Human Services
  • 2000: renovation to the second floor sponsored by American Legion Post 173
  • 2001: the Logan County Historical Society renovated the first floor of the Orr Mansion
Activity Reported:
  • Alarm motion detector being tripped at night
  • Doors opening in the ball room
  • Sliding door opening in the stairs
  • Items (a stuffed cat) being moved

Data Collected

Video Findings:
none
Photographic Findings:
none
Audio Findings:
  • mp3= cleaned
  • wav= unaltered

Classification Scale

After you have listened to the audio you can use the menu below to see what we think the the EVP is saying. Also, please keep in mind, that the use of head phones will greatly improved what you are hearing.

From the basement of the Orr mansion:

  • This one was recorded right after an investigator asked "'Is there anyone here?"
  • Same two investigators from above asking if they came move something for them.
  • In basement with the recorder laying in the middle of the room to the very back.  An investigator has the K2 meter and is about to say they are getting readings. The meter was holding a pretty constant orange and we could not figure out why and it didn't last more than a minute.
  • Three female investigators in the basement in the area the motion detector was being activated with the door closed.
  • Three female investigators in the basement in the area the motion detector was being activated with the door closed.

From the front entry area of the Orr mansion:

  • Investigators were getting up to take a break
  • Directly following the one above
  • Sitting on the floor just off of the entryway with my back toward the two chairs.  I am asking routine questions and trying to get a response on the K2. The K2 and my recorder are on the floor in front of me a few feet away.  I don't know what the noise is from at the end.

From the Parlor area of the Orr mansion:

  • Two investigators together, one investigator asks ”Is there anyone here that would like to speak with us”.

From the nursery room of the Mansion

  • I had closed the door to keep the noise out from downstairs while recording.  Again just asking if there was anyone there that belonged to the bed, doll, etc.

From the Doctors room of the museum:

  • The investigator was alone looking at the birth log and was thinking the doctor had delivered a lot of people
  • In the Doctor's office, right after the one above.  All you hear is me turning the pages of the book I was still looking at, nothing had been said to provoke a response.
  • There were two investigators in the room at this time. The recording before and after this section shows that the investigators were not making any noise.
  • Recorded with two investigators in the room. They were looking at the items in the display cases when this was recorded.

From the Under Ground Railroad Room of the museum:

From the Native American Room of the museum:

  • Three femal investigators in the Indian room with the door closed
  • One male and female investigator asking for something to make a sound for them.
  • Same room directly after the one above. A sound was made from the inside of a locked display case.
  • Same room about 10 minutes after the last capture. This was the next time they asked for a sound to be made.

Personal Experiences:
  • During an evp session in the 'American Indian & Early Pioneer' room two investigators were asking for a knock on the wall or some other sign to let them know there was someone present. Both investigators hear the sound of an item being moved in the large, locked, display case that housed Native American artifacts. Other untraceable sounds were also heard in the same room.
  • There had been reports of a stuff cat being moved in one of the upstairs bed rooms. Two of the investigators decided to relocate the cat to see if they could get it to move. They placed the cat on top of a pillow on the bed next to the headboard and left the area. The next group entered the room about 10 minutes later. After asking them about the cat they said "When we left that room, the cat was sitting right below the pillow.  On it's stomach.  I was the last person to leave that room before meeting up with everyone else to use the mini-box." When the first two investigators went back upstairs to tear down the equipment they found the cat about 10 inches away from the pillow laying on its side. We had a camera pointing down the hallway with the only access to the room and there had been no on in that room since the second group left. How the cat got moved not just once, but twice, we don't know.
  • During an evp session in the Native American room three investigators were in the room with the door closed. At one time they heard a knock on the inside wall followed by the sounds of the door knob being turned. They quickly got up and opened the door. there was no one in the hallways at the time. This was verified with the camera that was recording in the hallway. The hall was empty at the time they opened the door to check.
Equipment readings:
Several untraceable spikes and emf and K-II meters.

False Positives

Video:
none
Photographic:
Typical dust and pollen orbs.
Audio:
none

Conclusions

Investigation Summery:
Wow! I think that pretty much sums up our investigation. The first 'Wow' comes from the mansion itself. The amount of wood work in the house is amazing.

The second 'Wow' is the museum section;this is not your 'standard' small town museum. The amount of displays and items on display is by far one of the best I have ever been too.

The third 'Wow' came from the investigators themselves. We were all amazed at the history at this museum. I am sure that most of us will be back with our families to tour the location.

The final 'Wow' comes from the amount of EVP's that we collected from this location. We never call a placed haunted based on only one investigation, but to be honest, this is the first place that has demonstrated to us to rethink that rule.

If your ever in the Ohio area, this museum is well worth the drive to visit. The staff are very friendly and welcome any and all questions. To keep in mind, as with any not for profit location, a small donation is always welcomed. Only through our donations can we help to protect of history and these types of locations.

In our opinion, based solely on the evidence collected at the
time of this investigation we believe this location to be:
_ No paranormal activity
_ Paranormal activity, but not enough to consider it a haunting
X Residual Haunting
X Intelligent Haunting
_ Benevolent Spirit
_ Malevolent Spirit
_ Benign Spirit
_ Inconclusive
Case Status
X Follow-up recommended
_ Case Closed

Additional Notes

General Photographs:

Who are you gonna' call?

Related Web Sites:
Investigation Lessons Learned:
"You just never know".

I think that simple phrase sums up this location. We were contacted buy the museum since they had a couple of small reports of things happening in the museum but the majority of the staff were all skeptical of any activity. But as with any 'true' skeptic they were open to the possibility of some small amount of paranormal activity.

We have the policy of always helping out not for profit locations and we are supplied with a lot of gear that makes large locations such as this a prime location. We are so honored to have had the chance to help out and investigate this location.

Please stop at our guest book so we know you stopped in to say hello, thank you.

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